Yoga Podcast Ep. 62: Eddie Stern

An Imperfect World

Though the message isn’t necessarily new — the need for a more malleable and adaptive approach to practice within Ashtanga Yoga — it’s the messenger that may actually surprise you. Today’s episode with Eddie Stern is personal and incredibly honest. And one that may leave you with much to (re)consider.

Episode Transcript:

It was March 9th, 2020, just a few days before the World Health Organization declared Covid-19 a global pandemic, and Eddie Stern caught the last Delta flight out of Mumbai to return to his home in Brooklyn, NY just before the whole world descended into isolation and lockdowns, struggling to make sense of the overwhelming uncertainty. And yet, Eddie barely skipped a beat. Like a crisis first-responder, he quickly and seamlessly transitioned his teaching to online. Though to hear Eddie tell it, it wasn’t exactly rocket science:

“It’s like, I don’t know, part of yoga is when there’s something going on, whether it’s a catastrophe or, you know, a hurricane or gun violence or hungry people or whatever. And and you’re supposed to be there addressing those things and you just do it. And that’s all there. You know, there doesn’t need to be any bigger thing than that.

You know, a lot of people are by themselves, like, you know, they’re by themselves. They don’t have access to anything right now, but actually they do. They have access to a computer. So, hey, let’s do some yoga, that’s all. You know, that’s it. But yeah, that’s I wish I had a better answer for you other that you just sometimes just do things because it sounds like a good idea. I’m sorry, this is like terribly boring interview for you, Peg and Meghan. I apologize.”

Simple, yes. But Eddie is definitely not boring. First of all, he’s kind of a NY legend, keeps company with stars like Gwyneth Paltrow, Moby, and just last week, Willem Dafoe wore one of his new Broome Street Temple t-shirts on Saturday Night Live. And while he prefers to keep the yoga simple, when it comes to the science behind the yoga, Eddie totally ignites. In fact, you can read an article he recently co-authored in Psychology Today regarding different breathing practices that can help with a kind of silent hypoxia people have been experiencing. Or tune into his presentation at this year’s Yoga and Science Conference which will be held online in March. But where Eddie never ceases to amaze — and if I’m honest, also leave me feeling slightly unnerved — is in his willingness to speak what he believes to be true. Even when that truth is unpopular or hard to hear. Even when that means his own past is called into question.

“And that’s okay. It’s okay for me to feel bad about that. It’s fine for me to feel ashamed that I was trying to inflict a dogma on the world that shouldn’t have been there, that didn’t really reflect the higher teachings of yoga. As much as I think that they really are, it’s fine to feel that way because that’s going to ensure that I don’t go back in that direction again.”

Welcome to the Ashtanga Dispatch Podcast, I’m Peg Mulqueen you host along with Meghan Powell. The past few years have been like living a story as it unfolds. And it’s this story we hope to begin telling through the podcast, by weaving together the individual perspectives into a tapestry of shared but different experiences. 

Today’s guest is Eddie Stern. Since the 1980’s, Eddie has been studying, learning, and practicing yoga — and all of its associated philosophies and texts. Which Eddie describes as an endless ocean of knowledge and information, with always something new to learn. And why even though he is best known for his role as a yoga teacher, it’s being a student he clearly cherishes as much. In fact, he is now in his second semester doing a Masters in Science for yoga. 

Of course, Eddie is not new to us on the podcast. He’s been a guest twice before. In fact, his first appearance, Episode 31, is our most listened to episode of all time with over 25k downloads. It was recorded in New York at his Brooklyn Yoga Club, which has since closed. Meghan and I were visiting and had taken his led primary class just before.  I remember saying to her after, if I were to ever have a daily yoga teacher, I would want it to be Eddie. But let’s face it —  2,000 miles is an awful long commute for a yoga class.

Which was one of the lovelier changes the pandemic has brought — this opportunity to practice and learn from teachers who lived far away. And so a few mornings a week, I open my computer to be guided through a movement and breathing practice with Eddie, who now teaches both in person and online from his newly opened Broome Street Temple

Though it’s at an ungodly hour as I’m two hours behind, I wouldn’t trade those early mornings for the world. Eddie emits an acceptance and warmth that comes through even a screen, and teaches with no fuss or flourishes.  He is simple, steady, and straightforward, reminding me to just breathe and relax. Which, more than anything else, is exactly what I need. 

“Thank you. I mean, you know, it’s just that’s how I relate to what I do with yoga and it’s not for everybody. Some people like little bit more detail and a little bit more, you know, quote unquote instruction. And I I get over complicated with other things. You know, I get to I like science and and that’s complex.

And I like ancient texts, and those are complex. And so and all of those things. I enjoy the complexity of it and I enjoy the complicated nature of those things. But for yoga practice, the basic idea, I think, is that you’re trying to make your mind pretty quiet so you can be calm and be focused and somehow be connected to some ineffable part of ourselves.

And in order to do that, it seems like less is more in terms of talking in detail. And thinking, you don’t wanna be thinking too much. The thinking part of the mind is a part of the mind, which is problematic already. So and engaging that even more doesn’t help everybody. For some people, it’s really helpful. And then like for me, if I start overthinking how I’m doing a pose, it’s like if I’m doing a pose looking in a mirror, like I’ll start to lose my energy, I’ll get tired, I’ll lose, you know, the prana will disperse and stuff like that. So that’s just how I like it. So that’s because it’s how I practice and that’s how I’m going to teach.”

Well, I appreciate that “Just breathe” — that was just kept being my mantra. I’m just going to get there. And I’m just going to breathe where I am. And, you know, if I was working, just breathe. And I don’t know why it took me so long to accept support during the pandemic, but it’s been very appreciated.

“Well, now that the pandemic is almost over, it’s a pleasure to have you. (laughing)”

The truth is, I’ve been experiencing more grief and anxiety lately than I did throughout the entire pandemic. Up until now, I’d remained pretty steady despite all the inevitable stress. And so maybe this is what they are calling Covid fatigue, but in any case,  these feelings seem a bit awkwardly timed. As if there is something wrong with me that I am only now just experiencing. 

“Well, no, it’s fine. You’ve been doing great. You know, you had you had all of the in a resources you needed to carry you through and to stay strong and now maybe a little tired. Maybe your body has gotten tired of carrying you through. And so yeah, you’re starting to feel some of the the symptoms of sympathetic hyper arousal, they would call it, where your sympathetic nervous system which alerts you to danger and urges you to move towards safety by fighting or fleeing from your situation.

Maybe has reached its tipping point where it’s gone on just for long enough and now you’re like you’re starting to crash from it. So you’re feeling the things emerging but up. And, you know, if you are an adaptable, resilient, growth oriented person, then you can handle stressors from the environment in a balanced way without it throwing you off.

But we can only go on for so long before something throws us off. And it could just be the duration of time doesn’t have to be a specific event. It could just be time, duration like, okay, I’ve reached the end of my rope and, you know, now I’m feeling a little freaked out. You know, it’s kind of like it’s kind of like say you’re on a you’re in a car, you’re racing down the road and it’s dark out, you’re on a road, you’re not familiar with and all of a sudden you take a really sharp swerving turn because it’s like a cliff right on the side of the road that you didn’t even realize.

Like, you just avoid driving over the edge, but you keep driving another hour or two, you reach your destination, you get out of the car, and you’re like, Holy shit, that was a close one. We almost totally fucking bought it. And then you start freaking out and you’re like, I need a drink. So but in the moment you handled it, your nervous system knew what to do.

And you could keep driving without losing it because your nervous system knew what to do and get. But when you got to it, when you knew, like, I can let go now I’m in a safe place then it all comes flooding, and then all the adrenaline and the cortisol and the everything is coursing through the system. And then you got a rebound.

Maybe that’s happening to you now.”

I asked Eddie what has stood out for him the most over the course of these past two years, and his answer was one I think we can all relate to and feel:

“The killing of George Floyd was really, really bad. And that was the most intense part of the pandemic in in New York. And I think for the world, that was really a horrible and upsetting video beyond words incident and that that was a painful time for everybody for sure. And so yeah, I don’t know. And but in terms of like the pandemic itself, it’s been very bad.

A lot of people have died. A lot of people have lost work. There’s been a lot of suffering. And but but also every generation has its disasters some generations have more than one disaster in a row. And looking back as far as we look, that’s the nature of the world. We have to expect that really bad things are going to happen because that’s the world.

The world is an imperfect place. And what we want to hope for is that when bad things happen, we have the tools or the resources or the courage to deal the best we can without creating more chaos around us. So this was one of the things that we had. You know, we also had a very divisive, fractured and angry and upsetting political climate.

You know, for the four years that Trump was in office, America turned into a very ugly place that was exacerbated a lot during the pandemic. So we kind of had like, you know, that was like not two separate things but a concurrent thing. You know, it was concurrent from from political upset in to health upheaval so that’s one of the things we’ve had, you know, and and did we deal with it very well?

As the country or as a world in some ways, yes. And in some ways, no. That’s how it’s always going to be with catastrophes. So so and, you know, I think that in the beginning, there were a lot of people talking about how COVID was going to change the world. So many good things were going to come out of it.

And we were really going to be like, you know, emerge from this as more together communities kinder people and stuff like that. I never really jumped on that bandwagon. I thought that, you know, we’re only going to emerge from this in whatever way we act during it. And if we don’t act well, then, you know, we’re probably going to not emerge well. And if we act well, then we probably will. So and that’s going to, again, be split into the 50 50% of the people who believe one thing and the 50% who believe another in the world it’s just the nature of stuff. 

I don’t know, you know, and there’s going to be phases to like in October-November things we’re feeling like they were heading back to normal in New York and then there was the American variant and then, you know, cases shooting up everywhere in the city and and around the world. So then people went into panic mode again. So we’re going to be there’s still a lot of shifting back and forth like, oh, we’re, we’re coming out of it.

Oh, man, we’re going back in. We’re coming out of it. Oh, man, we’re going back in. It’s been a lot of that, you know, and uncertainty a is hard to manage, you know, unless you’re wired for it or you’ve trained yourself for it. But a mass uncertainty, it’s even more challenging because it’s not just you being uncertain about your future, but it’s everyone being uncertain about the future at the same time.

And all having different ideas about how we should deal with that uncertain future, with the meaning of that uncertain future as why it’s not really uncertain, but it’s just, you know, corporate interests trying to control us. And so there’s a lot of different dialogs happening and and that is standard operating procedure for humanity.

I never enjoyed hearing people wax poetic about the pandemic because there was too much suffering and too much death, and I haven’t enjoyed people with their conspiracy theories as well because that doesn’t necessarily help the issue and the way that I viewed it is that it’s a really bad disease.

You don’t want to get it. Some people who get it are lucky enough to not get too sick but a lot of people are not lucky to not get too sick. And it can have really long lasting consequences I had in January, beginning of the year was not fun. And even though it’s just a month later, I still feel the effects of having it.

And I, you know, tell you, the on the bed yoga that I was doing in the practices that I was doing that I was posting on Instagram made me feel a lot better, very quickly. And it was very, very simple stuff, you know, very simple things. But they made me feel better. And I shared those things with a bunch of different people who also found it to be helpful. Nothing taxing, you know, very short practices. So I’m I’m very much into short practices these days. I don’t have the energy right now for longer ones anyway.”

With Covid as our catalyst, I think we can all say we’ve seen our yoga practice shift over the past few years. Eddie included. And in a self-described rant, Eddie doesn’t mince words as he explains those changes within his own personal practice and in the way he now teaches. 

“The Ashtanga yoga sequences, which I’ve been doing for a long time, I guess I started doing them in 1991 and I really decided to make an effort at them in 1992 from 1992 until kind of last year. Now beginning of 2021 or so. That was mainly what I did, you know. So we’re talking a good 30 years or so. Mainly what I did but the whole thing of it’s a six day week practice, you know, never miss a day, blah blah blah blah blah. Was always a struggle for me because the I, I have a lot of energy for creativity and for doing things and for creating stuff, but I don’t have the same kind of energy for physical things.

I’m by nature physically I’m like a lazy person but, but mentally and creatively, creatively, creatively I’m super active. A lot of ideas a lot of inspiration. And so to try to practice the intensive things that we did every day, like Full-On was always a struggle for me. And when I would spend longer periods in my Mysore pushing through every day, I mean, there were periods where I would be in pain for like, you know, an entire year at a time over there.

But thinking that I had to push through everything and struggle through it, you know, keep doing, doing, doing did I see any discernible benefit from that? Not really. And I just decided to stop doing that, like about a year and a half ago and did and it took me long enough to get there. And not only, not only did I struggle with it mentally, but in terms of scheduling, like, you know, if I was traveling or if I was working a lot, which I do, you know, sometimes I’m tired in the morning at 3:00 when I have to get up and practicing.

So I won’t be able to finish a practice and I’ll think ‘Oh, I didn’t get it done today’ and need this type of thinking is endemic in the Ashtanga Yoga world. And if you look to just about any other yoga system in India or spiritually oriented practice or practice group, there’s not that kind of mentality, with the exception perhaps of Iyengar Yoga which is also very driven so I am, you know, yeah, you should do some practice every day if you want to it’s good to, to, you know, to do some stuff.

But I think that is a difference between doing say a meditation practice that you do once or twice a day, say like TM or some other mantra based thing or, or another type of meditation where it’s restoring and rejuvenating for the whole body, mind complex and nervous system and a practice that requires an hour and a half, give or take of really intense physical exertion.

Six days a week isn’t going to work for everyone it’s going to work for some people because they have the capacity to do it. But for those that don’t have that same capacity, maybe something else would be better. Maybe the idea that you can take these parts of these sequences and do some of them every day so you’re doing something or you don’t have to do everything every day.

So yeah, like what if just we had been given more options within the practice here? It’s a malleable thing for you to use so that you become healthier, happier, live longer or at least if you’re not going to live longer with it while you’re alive, you have mobility and your system functions the best that it can.

Your mind is calm. You feel good about yourself and and you’re balanced in your life. You know, you’re ready to do what you need to do.

So that’s not at all how I was trained in India. I was trained to push it really hard all the time to do it anyway, that if I had pain, it was my fault because I wasn’t breathing properly. Or wasn’t doing something properly. The status quo was that the sequences were perfect and, you know, just do the sequence and, you know, the quote unquote ‘all is coming’ or whatever and like all this stuff.

And I was a perpetuator of that for a long time too, because I wanted to believe it. But but, you know, I didn’t really fully believe it. And, and over the past couple of years, and not only I’ve been able to say that I don’t really believe that I’ve been able to act accordingly, too. And I don’t really believe that for myself.

So I’m not going to do that to myself anymore. I don’t actively believe it for other people, too. So I’m not going to encourage you to think that way. And and but if you’re able to do it or you’re able to do it for a certain period of time, fabulous. Enjoy it. Be happy, learn stuff. It’s good to challenge ourselves.

We grow from challenge. But what it’s not good to do is beat the shit out of yourself every day for years on end, thinking that it’s going to make you grow spiritually, when really maybe all it’s going to get you is a hip replacement or spinal surgery or exhaustion or burnout. Or maybe you just start getting old. That actually happens to people people somehow begin to age as the years go by.

Your bodies don’t always do the same things. So what are the options then for us? You know, as aging occurs, there’s there’s not really a lot of glamor in trying to hold on to the things you could do when you are 20 or 25 or 30 when you’re, you know, 54, 55 and the it’s not good for you mentally.

And I always like, you know, even ten or 15 years ago, I would look at some of the people I knew who were getting up at two in the morning to put a hot lamp on their back for an hour and a half and do their stretches in their warmups for an hour before they actually went to do their practice.

And I was like, Why? Like, what kind of a practice demands for you to prepare yourself for 2 hours before you go do it? That doesn’t make any sense. And there are a lot of people who continue to do that type of thing. I need to warm up before I do my practice. Why we obviously a practices like way too hard that because built in to the way you’re practicing you should be able to ease into the things that you need to do.

Not do 4 hours of prep before you actually step on the yoga mat. That’s like saying you know, I’m going to go sit down and meditate now, but I need to like work on my concentration for an hour or so before I actually get on my meditation cushion. I’m going to need to do you know, I’m going to need to pull up one of those learning apps like Lucid or something and do some mental drills, and I’m going to do some like online, you know, testing to make sure my cognitive functions are happening right and whatever and now I’m going to go sit on my meditation question like, no, you don’t do that.

You, you know, have glass, water or a cup of tea or coffee or whatever, and you sit down and set your time. But if you have one, take a few slow breaths and then you just then you’re gone, you know, then you start. The yoga practice is supposed to be the same, you know, you the time that you do your sadhana is the time that you’re doing it.

You don’t prepare for hours before your sadhana in order to get ready for it. And so that kind of preparation, another type of thing, when I was in my thought this was endemic. Everyone was warming up for an hour or so before they actually got to the yoga show. It was like, doesn’t make any sense. I’m sorry. Like if you look at the Indian tradition of what abstinence or for that’s not part of it.

So I don’t know. These are some of my opinions. And again, I really want to reinforce it for the folks who it works for. And they can do all these things like great. It worked for me for a while in this type of way, too, even though I struggled with an everyday practice and honestly, I never had the type of consistency of quality of practice, like I observed other advanced people having I didn’t have that quality of like quote unquote good practice everyday where I could just do everything every day.

I was always up and down always up and down. And when I do my own practices of the things that I want to do and work on the different types of yoga that I’m doing now, I don’t have that same up and down ever. I have consistency because here’s what I’m going to work on today and it just and I allow myself to flow into that and do those things.

And I always finish feeling better than when I started and not exhausted I was getting exhausted from trying to push these practices to heart. And maybe that means that I was doing them wrong. Maybe it means that it just wasn’t for me. Whatever the answer is or whatever, once anyone says about me and they think it might be so that I didn’t have the consistency of the greatest of the practitioners, I really don’t care because it didn’t work for me.

And even though I think there’s goodness in it, the way that the philosophy or not the philosophy, by the way, that the, you know, the, the the whole what’s that called? When they tell you how things the pedagogy was being done, that thing didn’t work for me that do it anyway. Don’t think about it all this time. They keep pushing to keep going further.

You can do a little bit more that didn’t work for me. So anyway, I don’t want to teach like that, but I think the sequences are basically good. They’re not the the best sequences in the world. They’re one of many, many good sequences there’s a lot of good stuff out there and there. There are things that are nice about the practice, like, you know what comes next so you don’t have to think about it.

That’s a good thing to like if you’re not a professional yoga person and you’re just doing yoga because it makes you feel good before you go to work and it helps you, you know, not throw your kids out the window and stuff like that. Then it’s nice to have a sequence because you don’t have to think about it.

You can just do it in like tights or something. You do it, you’re done. Feel better? Fantastic. And so in that regard, it can be very, very good. I think there’s necessarily any huge spiritual benefit to doing the same thing, same as in a practice every day that is going to be more pronounced than if you were doing other things as well.

You know, people grow in all different disciplines, so. So that’s all. I’m sorry if this was a little bit of a rant, but that’s where I’m at right now. And I think that was one of the questions you wanted to ask me, like where am I at right now? And this is basically where I’m at right now. I think Ashtanga Yoga is good.

I have a lot of appreciation for it and a lot of gratitude for everything that learning and teaching the system is brought to my life and the but where I’m at now teaching is that I’m teaching it a little bit differently without too much dogma. And I’m also teaching other things that I practice the different Hatha yoga things that I experiment with and that I research.

I teach those things too, and I primarily practice those things now. So you know, even if you look at you look to any physical discipline and say you have a yoga master or martial arts master, and I’m not by any means a master. But if you look at any of these people, when they get to their sixties and seventies or eighties, they’re still teaching the things that they used to do when they were younger.

They might not be practicing them anymore because it doesn’t work for their body glory or anything like that. So I’m looking at it like you know, that’s the phase I’m going into right now. Like these things don’t work for my body anymore, but I’m still going to continue to teach them because they work for other bodies and they do well for other bodies.

So let other people experience the joy that can be had from them. But, you know, I’d like to create a zone of learning that doesn’t become too obsessive. And I say that because I’ve observed a lot of obsessiveness I’ve been a contributor to people being obsessive about practices through the way that I was teaching. And so I and I feel bad about that, that I was that I was contributing to the world in that kind of way.

And that’s okay. It’s okay for me to feel bad about that. It’s fine for me to feel ashamed that I was trying to inflict a dogma on the world that shouldn’t have been there, that didn’t really reflect the higher teachings of yoga. As much as I think that they really are, it’s fine to feel that way because that’s going to ensure that I don’t go back in that direction again.

So I’m not concerned about feeling bad about myself for those things, and I’m not concerned about feeling a little bit ashamed. That’s good. That’s the learning tool. And so that’s where I am. Yeah. And who knows where I’ll be next week?

And I’m you know, if you it’s not like anything goes, you know, it’s not some things make sense and some things don’t and certain things fit together and certain things don’t fit together. And what you, you know, we all should be developing over the years is kind of a vocabulary or a grammar of the body and of the practices that we know and understand how to put those together in a way that makes sense for general human anatomy and physiology.

And then everything’s fine. And but some things simply don’t make sense. Like, there are a lot of bad sequences out there that aren’t going to be good for your body. Who knows where they came from? People made them up. I mean, I went to last two years ago, I went to a hot yoga class formerly called Bikram with my friend Marcus Antebi, the Juice Press New York City legend, and he loves Bikram yoga.

So I went with him. And, you know, I did the class in the 26 process and the two breathing practices. And although it’s a little bit hot for me and at the end of it, he said, How did you like it? And I said, I felt like I was at a yoga class and the poses were put together in a really sensible way.

And I felt like I had done yoga and I felt like, you know, this is a really good thing. This community is great. I went to a another yoga class with a friend of mine who was a very much a fitness enthusiast, and it was to a core power yoga class. And he said, I’ll take you to classes class I really like.

I went to it. I couldn’t see where there was yoga anywhere in that class at all. I saw no discernIble yoga except for a couple of yoga poses thrown in in between calisthenics. And weightlifting. And I did not feel like I had been in the yoga class at all. I felt like I’d been in a high intensity interval training class with a few yoga poses thrown in.

I mean, everyone was basically leaving there feeling happy and pumped, but they weren’t leaving there with the same character of mind that they were leaving from the hot yoga class with because it wasn’t really a yoga class. It was something else. It was an exercise of class, exercise class, some yoga. So, you know, how do you know if it’s yoga?

Basically the effect that it has on your mind and the collective mind of the people are doing it. That’s how you’re going to observe. You know, it’s not going to be, oh, because this is yoga. That’s not yoga. It’s going to be well, the proof is in the pudding. And so if you’re doing classical types of practices, you generally are going to see those effects all across the board, whether it’s the issue of yoga or the yoga being done it, Ravi Shankar or she she went on to whatever.

But some of these other things that are the real hybrid practices, they’re meant for something else. And and that to be freely stated and freely said. And people should be able to talk about those things with them without so much of a judgment to mind. But just be discerning, you know, be a little bit of a critical view of what are the things that we’re calling yoga and understand that not everything goes you know, not everything is yoga, even if you call it that.

Who’s the deciding factor on that? You know, is it the teacher? Is it the organization of the students know it’s going to be the outcome? You know, what is the outcome of those practices that’s going to determine yoga, in my opinion, which might be a poorly formed opinion.

Meghan, how are you? You haven’t said anything.”

I know. I’ve just been listening because I haven’t had anything to contribute, but I’m really good. I thought I really appreciated your words on practice and and having it work for you or wherever you’re at and your body and the past couple of years have been sort of working with that in myself, with noticing the thoughts of it having to be this intense six day a week practice.

You know, I’m young. And bit it should work for me. Like, why can’t I do it ever? Why am I so tired? And I kind of reached the end of my rope a long time ago. And then working with how to adjust my physical practice to fit where I was at and then rearranging sequences and experimenting and exploring.

And I felt at first very well like slightly ashamed because I felt, why isn’t this working? And then over time, it’s just now I’m at a place where my body doesn’t feel as tired. I feel great like young, enthusiastic, energetic, but I certainly did it for a while. So I really, really appreciate your words on that.

“And sometimes we need like, you know, some strict training and discipline in order to put something into place to get us to the next step. You know, it’s like if you look at abstract artists, pretty much all of them started off with immense classical training in drawing and painting. And then only after they could draw with impeccable skill and paint with impeccable skill, did they go off and start developing other things that we then began to appreciate.

So there’s something really to be said for having a strong discipline training, but how long do you need to sharpen the instrument for? You know, if you keep sharpening an instrument for too long, it will become dull or you’ll wear it down. You know, at a certain point you have to start using it with that instrument active and moving at different types of weights.

So I hear you thank you.

Effort is good. But we have to remember about what is right effort. Right effort is effort that doesn’t exhaust you, make you sick. Or make you completely obsessive or fanatical. A right effort will keep you balanced and energized and focused and connected, giving, compassionate, caring, kind to all those things. So, you know, effort is good, but it’s got to be the right effort.”

The Ashtanga Dispatch Yoga Podcast is is produced, edited, and hosted by Peg Mulqueen along with Meghan Powell. Music is by Marc Pilley.

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